2P START! Live!: Beyond Brawl Edition


TimDon’t care about Brawl? Well, this week we discuss the games to look forward to beyond Brawl for the Wii. We’ve also got Trivia For You, Comic Talk, Suggestion Box, and the Black Doom Award!


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  1. Narnian says:

    Looking forward to this year’s games. Hmmm. Still in debate over whether to check smash bro dojo out though. I am looking forward to it, but I am not sure whether to do so or not. :l

  2. Tustin says:

    Wow… I got the podcast so early for once that it seems that it wasn’t even done uploading to the site when I finished downloading it. Ray was cut off immediately after he gave away the “spoiler” πŸ™‚

    Oh well, I got the rest now. Nice podcast guys. No idea what the trivia thing is, but I totally agree that Pokemon should be a MMORG. And I did see the roster change though, and I’m happy.

  3. Andrew says:

    I have a kid you could borrow! I’ll send you his voice a la Disney’s “Little Mermaid.”

    Uh oh, I’m gonna get Barriga’d!

    Re: Brawl… I refuse to look! I unsubscribed from all those feeds, gave up reading almost everything game related and consigned myself to only posting comments on 2pstart. I’m not gonna give up now.

    “What? I have to tape two gamecubes together to play the new smash bros.?”

    Since I promised:
    Tim is a scholar and a gentleman; not only does he keep his wife happy and satisfied, bring joy to those around him, and live life to the fullest, but it is his wit coupled with his insight into gaming culture that makes this comic worth reading.
    Tim is dumb, Ray rocks.

  4. Tustin says:

    Well, that’s one way to keep the house quiet, Andrew…
    Make sure you send instructions to Tim and Ray on how to control the little seashell you send it in. πŸ™‚

  5. Baka says:

    I went ahead and spoiled everything. Instead of leaving me disappointed that there isn’t anything left to discover, I just became one billion times more excited for the game.

    They should make Ray a playable character in Brawl, with maybe Tim as an assist trophy. Normally I would add in a little joke about what Ray’s final smash would be, but nothing funny comes to mind.

  6. Ray says:

    Normally I would add in a little joke about what Ray’s final smash would be, but nothing funny comes to mind.

    Come on, isn’t it obvious? I would summon Black Doom!

  7. lwelyk says:

    Yay! 2 weeks in a row. I’m gonna sit this one out. To give others a chance. It’s definitely not because I don’t know the answer. Seriously.

  8. Baka says:

    Oh, thats true.

    Unless you end up being a clone of Sonic, since you’ve probably modeled your life after his.

  9. Dj75728 says:

    JACK-CRAP-RABBITS!!!! I thought I had that trivia in the bag T_T ……Oh well, I’m hyped for Kirby and Animal Crossing! :mrgreen:

    @Narnian: So far there’s no big spoilers on brawl. 2 stages and one Char., it’s no big deal really.

    @Baka: I spoiled everything too T_T !!!!! Although I must say that I expected more from the final roster. I’m extremely happy with it, but I expected more I guess. Darn landmaster(you’ll get it when Brawl comes out)………

  10. Andrew says:

    Cryptic comments…

    When people talk about brawl then I wonder: Was that a spoiler? Was that a joke? Both? Is the landmaster a playable character? What about the Pong paddle? What is the pong paddle’s final smash? Do projectiles bounce off the pong paddle to make up for its lack of limbs and inability to move off of a set vertical line?

  11. Dj75728 says:

    DIE-HARD SMASH FAN HERE!!!!! :mrgreen:
    I love that song during Tim’s Black Doom award, it’s the song when you fight the final boss in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. And Ray did say he’d try his best, and I didn’t last a day either. And there are people who don’t know anything about Brawl, I call them “Brawlmish” :mrgreen:

    Oh Ray/Tim! My Wii#:6937-9145-2609-2912. I wanna play you guys at brawl when it comes out.

  12. Andrew says:

    The school that I live and teach prevents my wii from getting online. I tried to convince my wife that we should move just for internet access for the wii.

    She said no.

  13. dj75728 says:

    The school that I live and teach prevents my wii from getting online. I tried to convince my wife that we should move just for internet access for the wii.
    She said no.

    That sucks dude. and no, **SPOLER ALERT** the landmaster is not a playable char. and you should buy an adapter to plug your wii to the internet through an ethernet cable, you have a computer(or access to) so i’d assume you could plug it in. check it -> here

  14. Tustin says:

    *slides bar far to the left*
    Cool!! Messed up post! Really long URL! cool…

    BTW, we know the landmaster is Fox’s final smash – that’s from the dojo! You can probably move it, hover it, and shoot with it too. πŸ™‚

  15. Andrew says:

    The ports are blocked from campus. I buy virtual console games by bringing my wii to church and hooking it up after the service.

  16. Lava says:

    Sorry if this is a spoiler, (*SPOILER ALERT*) but Ray, are you trying to say we should look at the dojo because it’s disappointing, and we need to brace ourselves? (I’ve heard a lot of rumors, but I’ve still managed to avoid a lot of stuff too… I could probably guess most of the characters, though I haven’t actually seen more than like 2 of the newest non-dojo ones.)

    If that’s the case, don’t you think buying the game while still hyped up would be more fun? Then we would only slowly realize the truth, and maybe it wouldn’t hurt so bad. Heh. I don’t know, if you are TRULY serious, I might look at the DOJO for myself. But I would like some kind of explanation from you first.

  17. Ray says:

    For me, I was pretty taken back by what is and is not in the game. If I were to have stayed away from spoilers about characters for an entire month so that I could have them revealed while playing, I truly would have felt a “That’s it? That’s what I waited all this time for?!”

    So knowing that, you may not need to look. You could just go into March 9th prepared for the worst (and it will probably end up better than expected), or you could look now and be able to regain yourself in the next month.

    Either way, just know that the majority of new characters have already been announced, and you absolutely can not wait to play the game.

  18. Dj75728 says:

    @Tustin: You’re halfway there(actually one/third :mrgreen:), the landmaster is Fox’s final smash, but it’s not quite way I’m disliking the landmaster. Not quite .

    @Lava/Ray: Some of the secret char. surprised me(with one being too good/odd to be true) but for the most part it’s pretty predictable. I’ve yet to see the Subspace Emissary’s story mode(on purpose) so I don’t know about that. But as far as Char. go, it’s okay but it wouldn’t blow your mind(except for that one guy who must have come from whoever suggested Mr. Game & Watch in melee :mrgreen: )

  19. Lava says:

    Thanks for the clarification Ray, I’m kind of torn now, but I guess for now, since I seem to still have the will power, I’ll wait… at least until March 2.

    Dj75728, after reading your comment, I feel even more inclined to go/continue this route, since there’s probably at least 1 or 2 characters that I either don’t know, or wouldn’t expect. And with Ray’s advise, (expecting the worst) I think it might be worth it to be at least a little surprised by the “WTF character” you mentioned, and maybe even 1 other as well. I just won’t be frothing at the mouth with expectation.

    Well, I guess that’s good advise for anyone who still doesn’t know everything last thing about Brawl. (I’m kind of sad, cause I do know quite a bit… maybe too much, but at least I won’t be jarringly disappointed.)

  20. dj75728 says:

    @Lava: Well I think “dissapointed” is a strong term for this situation. I’m far from dissapointed(aside from the landmaster thing :mrgreen: ), I’m actually quite content with the new characters, although I do want more, I’m content for now(especially with the small possibility of downloadable content i.e. new char./stages) but even if we don’t get new characters I’ll be more than fine, and I think most people will(as long as your not seriously expecting something like sephiroth or master chief :mrgreen: )

  21. Andrew says:

    I holding out for lemmings as a playable character.

  22. Dj75728 says:

    Hey what about [Dynamite]Headdy? Or maybe Bubsy :mrgreen:

  23. Dj75728 says:

    You know what? I think I figured out why so many people are dissapointed by the final Brawl roster, because we’ve already bcome accustomed to so many of the new characters(meta-knight, sonic, solid snake) that we’ve forgotten that they’re new characters. I mean really, If you would have started up Brawl only knowing of the confirmed veteran characters and saw meta-knight, lucas, king dededee, sonic, solid snake, pokemon trainer, ike, diddy kong, olimar/pikman, and pit in the roster you’d be blown away(I know I would be; look -> 😯 ); but we’ve become so accustomed to them over the months that we feel like they’ve been there forever, so the final roster seems so devoid of new characters. At least that’s my theory :mrgreen: .

  24. Dj75728 says:

    Don’t take my last comment too literally, they’re are quite a few great secret characters, but compared to what’s already been revealed(sonc etc.) it just doesn’t hit you as hard as you’d expect.

    :mrgreen: <- Dj75728’s Obligatory Green Smiley

  25. Andrew says:

    I’m still looking forward to it, and I am ready to be blown away. For the last half a dozen years I have been looking forward to this and thinking how amazing it would be to be totally surprised by new characters I would never have guessed would be in the game. To see an unexpected profile and think, “Who could that be? Maybe James McCloud?” And to have no clue what was coming.

    Yeah nothing will beat that.

    I mean, nothing WOULD HAVE beaten that.

  26. Dj75728 says:

    @Andrew: You know what would be crazy? If Sakurai announced that James McCloud would be in Brawl, but never gave us any more detail than that, then the game comes out and it’s not James McCloud(Fox’s Father) but instead is James McCloud(F-Zero Contestant). I don’t know, just a thought :mrgreen:

  27. Ray says:

    And his Final Smash would be…

  28. Dj75728 says:

    I think Ray knows why I have a passionate dislike of the land master :mrgreen: . I didn’t know it came in red though.

  29. dj75728 says:

    For being a Brawl free podcast, that’s all the comment board consists of.

  30. Baka says:

    There is no such thing as truly Brawl free. It is a part of everything and keeps the universe in balance.

  31. Β­ says:

    Oh I want that Kirby Wii, to bad it still doesn’t exist. (No its not epic Yarn)

    Foreshadowing the Great Nintendo Casual Gamer gap in games anyone?

    People spoiled R.O.B. for me (because they didn’t know that he was unlock-able), Capitan Falcon because they were obsessed with him, and I knew he would not be able to hide it, and Wolf was attempted to be spoiled but I thought they were meaning Fox costume so he was still a surprise πŸ˜›

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