Crouching Tiger, Careless Driving


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December 2nd, 2009

Crouching Tiger, Careless Driving

TimHope this doesn’t come off as too insensitive, I just love how well the box art image works here. Tiger’s celebration pose so easily becomes an anguish pose when given a different context. Oh, and if you’re totally lost, you need to crawl out from under that rock! Finally, I’d like you all to check out D3vin’s third guest strip he’s done. I must say, his artwork is getting better and better!

RayI was dying to use “Feel the drama” from the back of the real box art, but it drew a little too much attention to itself on our back cover. Without all that fine print it just looked awkward.


  1. Friar says:

    First comment!

    Anyway, Nice strip guys!

  2. blaster says:


  3. Rydash says:

    I think Tim and Ray have a fallback career! Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, but, nice comic, guys.

  4. Kvb says:

    Yeah, it was okay, I suppose.

  5. The Gastronomic Gamer says:

    I think that the text at the bottom was unnecessary. I thought that there was a second punchline and it confused me.

    • TheNinjaMouse says:

      I have to agree there. Still, the image juxtaposition was pretty funny.

    • Mr. Beatdown says:

      There are more punchlines in the text at the bottom. Coming after tiger with a 9-iron; be a scratch player, watch out for those trees, can play at 2:25 AM. All references to Tiger’s latest episode.

  6. randomperson says:

    i think that back at the US open he got mad he lost so he decided to not show up so he crashed his car!

    great comics guys!

    Besides that i really enjoy your comics they are always kid friendly and i love the longer ones because you can re read them more but, when its like the boo costume i only read it 2 times i am sure. But anyways why does tiger look like he broke is back? I mean look at him he is holding his neck! It doesn’t look like one so that is strange very strange.

  7. pcargill says:

    hey, from a golfer, it IS VERY HARD to make a hole-in-one, and its even harder to drive a car on a golf course! but SGCG

  8. steve-ohs says:

    I loved it! Great Comic!

  9. Without a doubt the funniest web comic I’ve read in a long time.

  10. Nebula427 says:

    I didn’t even know about Tiger crashing a car but I still thought the joke was funny. That box art works perfectly. The Wii Wheel logo on the back of the box is a nice touch.

  11. BadnikHunter says:

    Haha, nice. Wasn’t really expecting that, but I’m now glad I know those things about Tiger Woods, just so that I could understand the comic withough having to look it up.

  12. Hilarious! All the text at the bottom was also funny in light of his stupidity.

  13. CKcheeseboy says:

    I liked the Wii Wheel logo, but I think I’d have to agree that the text at the bottom was unnecessary, because it didn’t add enough to the rest of the comic (or maybe I just didn’t fully get those).

    Although to be overly nitpicky, most of the damage on the car isn’t in the spot against the tree, so it looks a little awkward.

    And Tim, that link probably won’t be very helpful if people click it in a couple months (or even weeks).

    • CKcheeseboy says:

      Correction: the stuff at the bottom was just too specific for somebody who only knew basic info about the incident to get. I still think it’s unnecessary, but I guess people who got them right away might think otherwise.

  14. MiMGodfather says:

    Guess it’s time for me to… RISE FROM MY GRAVE (inappropriate capslock ftw!). I’ve been reading the comic since #78, the Fundamental Theorem of War. I have enjoyed all of your comics and have listened to the entire backlog of podcasts (great to listen to while I’m at work).

    I really liked this comic, especially since I have been getting updates on the whole thing occasionally while listening to the radio. I have to admit though, I wish it had a little something extra… like… oh, I dunno… his wife running out of the crowd toward Tiger angrily swinging one of his drivers.
    Honestly though? The comic is awesome just the way it is. I just happen to have a twisted sense of humor 😀

    Also, in regards to something mentioned in your podcast, you can add another “over 12 years old” reader to your fanbase. I’m 25 years old and look forward to both the comics and podcasts every week. Why did I wait so long to rise? Just pure laziness I guess 🙂

  15. Tacos says:

    I loved it, but then again, I spent most of Thanksgiving break with ESPN on, so I knew all about the drama of Tiger Woods. The Wii Wheel logo, the text, and the fire hydrant under the car were all nice touches.

  16. TomX says:

    I really liked it, the whole thing was unexpected. I haven’t seen any other comic, much less a gaming webcomic, approach Tiger Woods yet and it was executed nicely.

  17. Apkinesis says:

    Good comic, but I have to agree with some of the other commenters on several points. The comic seemed just a bit more connected to the celebrity than the game (though, not knowing about the news, I still found it humorous), the text at the bottom confused me as I was expecting a hidden joke or two there (but I might just be missing something), and the hydrant just looks odd. But that’s all just nitpicking; I still enjoyed the comic overall 🙂 Funny how the same pose can be read completely differently when under different context.

    Also, Ray’s link just comes up with a “no hotlinking” message (for me anyway). How dare you hotlink 😛

    • Apkinesis says:

      Hey, I can see the image now! Thanks for the quick fix. And comparing the comic’s text to that of the real cover, it makes a little more sense now.

  18. Kinda funny how a couple of weeks ago I got raked over the coals for not knowing about Mario’s upcoming penguin suit. And now it seems none of these people are aware of a story that’s making national headlines. Apparently all those jokes in the bullet point text at the bottom of the comic are too subtle for the 12-year-olds.

    • FluffyPanda says:

      Correction – international headlines.

      Really people, videogame blogs aren’t the only news sources you should read. May I suggest BBC News.

      And I liked the little extra jokes at the bottom too.

      • DrOswald says:

        OK, here is the problem with the “get out from under a rock” thing. I see a headline about sports and I just don’t care. Many people see the name “Tiger Woods” and they just skip it because they just don’t care about him at all. That’s why I didn’t get it at first.

        I keep up with current issues. I have educated my self on the swine flu and global climate change. I read about politics and medical advances. I don’t read about Tiger Woods. It’s that simple.

        That said, I actually like the comic. It is pretty funny once you know a couple of facts.

      • DrOswald says:

        I reread my last post, and I realized that it sounds kind of angry, which is not what I meant. All I am saying is that we all live under a rock, we just choose which one to live under. I chose to live under the rock where I don’t here news about celebrities and sports stars.

      • FluffyPanda says:

        But you at least had to read the headline which said “Tiger Woods crashes car” to decide that you don’t want to read the article… and that’s all the knowledge the joke requires.

      • DrOswald says:

        Imagine if you are scanning a few dozen headlines, and came across a headline that said “Glutamine antagonist treatment found effective in place of levodopa.” You probably don’t remember reading that, because you probably don’t care about glutamine antagonists or levodopa. You forget about it a half a second after you read it. In fact, you probably never even saw it because you don’t read scientific journals, just like I don’t read the sports section, which is where all the articles on Tiger Woods have been in the local papers I read.

    • Ryman says:

      Lol, I didn’t realize that you addressed the jokes before you posted. I should read your whole comment.

    • Ray says:

      Hilarious point, Eddie. Although them be fightin’ words…

      • Ryman says:

        No fightin’ now boys. Take it to Brawl.

      • TheNinjaMouse says:

        Fightin’ words indeed, particularly since the comments in the last podcast showed how many people around here are over 18….

        I gathered that the bullet-point text included further references to the auto accident, but I guess the jokes there seemed too forced to me. Sorry.

    • Keja says:

      Eddie, there’s no need to bring age into this. Underneath the acne and coffee stain moustaches us kids are the same as you.

      And Great comic guys, I got it.

      • roadjcat says:

        Yeah, sorry, I haven’t been paying attention to the news recently, but if it was THAT big of a deal, I would have heard of it. I’m not that far under the rock. XD I think I vaguely remember something about Tiger Woods, but like Dr. Oswald, I quite frankly, don’t care. I do have to say that before I even got to this page, the title made me chuckle, and the way the box art could be interpreted is kinda funny as well, but the meat of the joke was lost on me.

    • Highwater Trousers says:

      While you’re at it, why not blame 12 year-olds for bad Wii games?

    • CKcheeseboy says:

      Right, but this is a GAMING webcomic. You didn’t know some (rather basic) info about one of the biggest GAMES being released, so you had little right to complain. If we were at “Golfing Webcomic Website”, maybe I would agree with you, but the incident didn’t have a lot to do with games, so people should be forgiven for not knowing the details (i.e. the text at the bottom).

      I DO agree with FluffyPanda, though, that people at least should have gotten the basic joke, since it was pretty much everywhere. I mean, I don’t give a crap about golf and I heard it…do people go out of their way to avoid news? I don’t agree with DrOswald’s last point, though, because if you ended up seeing a comic a day or two later that talks about glutamine, you’d probably go “Hey, I remember seeing a headline about that” at the very least, so even skimming over the title of “Tiger Woods crashes car” would probably register when you saw the comic. Since this story (for some reason) has been big enough to get mentions on front pages, I would think most people would have heard about it.

      • roadjcat says:

        Maybe it was just me, but with the Cold, Cold Mountain comic, it could kind of be inferred that based on the way the costume looked that it was a new suit for Mario, and so even though I didn’t know anything about NSMBW, I got the comic. It’s a little harder to make an assumption like that with this comic.

        But I guess I have been living under a rock. Oh well.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        By that same token, you could probably infer the gist of this comic.

        Tiger Woods + Car + Tree = Tiger Woods probably hit a tree with his car.

      • roadjcat says:

        But why is that funny? It isn’t unless you know the story. Once you figured out it was a new suit in the previous comic you would realize that Mario killed the mother for the suit, which is the joke. However in this comic, yes, you figured out that he probably hit a tree, but that’s not a joke until you make the relation.

      • roadjcat says:

        I mean yes, I suppose that could be his agony face because he hit a tree, but unless you can connect it to real life, it’s just totally random and doesn’t make sense. It’s not even the kind of random where it’s so random that it’s funny.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        Well I took the agony face AS the main joke, which figuring out that he hit the tree from context clues is enough to get the joke. But maybe that joke just wasn’t enough for you (and a bunch of other people). Different standards/expectations I guess.

  19. Ryman says:

    Am I the only one that notices the little funny jewels of jokes in the text at the bottom? Like “…watch out for those trees!” or the time when Tiger crashed, aka 2:25 am. ” And even the “Grab the nine iron! Move over Tiger, I’m coming after you.”

    Lol, every paragraph in there has a small joke. It’s riddled with little things if you guys look. It’s like the Sonic facebook page.

  20. Highwater Trousers says:

    The text at the bottom is just awesome! Yes, you do need to understand a lot of the details of the whole Tiger Woods controversy. Although I enjoyed the last statement, “Never miss you own tournament again, play online!” Just the play on words here is great; Woods missed his own tournament and the box could still be referring to a player missing a in-game tournament.

    Although I am a bit confused about the first frame. The golf ball is hovering right on the edge, but Woods is considering it a victory. Help me out here, is the ball going to fall in and is this just a quick shot before it goes in? Or is it just right on the edge and not going to fall in? It looks like it will go in, but I’ve seen stranger things happen.

    • Tim says:

      Yes, the ball is about to go in. That’s actually the second picture we tried, the first had the ball further away and we feared it would look like he missed. This was as close to the edge as we could find, though a picture with the ball in the hole would have been better.

      • FluffyPanda says:

        Tim, how come no “driver” jokes? Too obvious?

      • Tim says:

        Ha, didn’t even think of it. But did you get my ‘scratch golfer’ joke?

      • Ray says:

        I thought the name of the comic was a driving joke…

      • Highwater Trousers says:

        Thanks for clearing that up. Strage though, that there wouldn’t be any good pictures of a golf ball in a hole.

      • @ Ray: so it is! Missed that one.

      • FluffyPanda says:

        heh, indeed! I always seem to miss the logo change and page title until people start mentioning them in the comments / podcast. I guess I need to start looking outside of the bounds of the comic 🙂

      • FluffyPanda says:


        There are plenty, but since the hole is quite deep it just looks like… a hole. Not that interesting!

        BTW, I really dislike the threading on these comments. You can’t see what’s new when returning to the site, most of the time you can’t reply directly to the person you want to (like now) and nobody quotes any more so the RSS feed doesn’t work either.

        Any chance we could go back to the non-threaded comments?

      • racefreak265 says:

        I think you were referencing the scratches Tiger got in the crash, right?

      • roadjcat says:

        FluffyPanda, I was actually just thinking how hard this system makes it to find new comments.

      • CKcheeseboy says:

        The only problem is that going back to unthreaded comments probably won’t be as easy from a technical standpoint as switching to them was. When adding a feature, you only have to make sure it doesn’t screw any of the old method up, but taking away a feature will almost certainly screw it up. And even if the posts are kept, imagine how confusing it would be to find the comments section with all the threaded comments willy-nilly since there’s no quotes to help with context clues.

        Now I obviously don’t know how exactly things work on the back end, so Tim would be the one who could confirm or deny that.

        Some more ideas (I’m not taking feasibility into account FYI, just throwing stuff out there):
        -allow unlimited (or a large number) of replies in a single thread, but put any after a certain number in spoilers by default. That wouldn’t help finding new posts, but it would help with the issue of 3 replies being a little small.
        -somehow mark posts as new. I’m not sure how that would work, but maybe you could figure something out
        -allow the RSS feed to have more than 5 comments, since if a lot are posted at once they fall off quickly

  21. Dontkillchic says:

    I like the way you’ve put the wheel icon on the back cover.

  22. Axel says:

    Cool comic. Also: Wii Wheel?

  23. Supersonic24 says:

    Meh, decent comic. Didn’t get the “Scratch Golfer” thing. I didn’t hear many details about the crash either, but its not your fault.

  24. Talduras says:

    Wait a minute, it’s really “Pay & Play” for online play? For a GOLF GAME??? Fail!

    Yeah, got the joke, though no laughs have escaped from my lips. Good job with the back cover thing, though.

    Now for a little role-play based on that back cover…

    Tiger: “NOOOOOO! I ruined my Warthhog jeep by running over a fire hydrant and into a tree! Alright, you Covenant fools… you’ll pay for distracting me! Come get some! HRRRAAAARGH… oh wait… this is a golf club, not a gun… and I’m not Master Chief… and there are no Covenant aliens. Oh snap…

    I was tempted to do a squirrel joke here, but it would likely be viewed as insensitive, plus it would’ve made Tim feel obligated to go on another Up tirade. “Up is destroying people’s minds! They think it’s real when it’s only a fantasy!”

    Um… yes, I’m done now. 😉

  25. D3vin says:

    Nice comic guys, especially that one done by that “D3vin” guy.

    In all reality, I didn’t see this one coming, and I have been keeping an eye on this possible Tiger Woods scandal.

  26. MetaRidleyR27 says:

    Haha, Great Comic Guys! I heard about Tiger’s car accident a few days ago, so that definitely helped with understanding the joke. I thought the joke was solid enough with just the cover art, but the extra text added really added onto the comic to make it even better.

  27. aghhdjgdjkfhgtahdugihila; says:

    Meph, this storys getting old. Even NPR wouldnt stop talking about it!

  28. aghhdjgdjkfhgtahdugihila; says:

    Otherwise, great comic!

  29. C.Olimar788 says:

    I laughed.

    Then I read that it was based on his car accident and I felt bad. I’d label this as a bit tasteless. :/ At least he wasn’t hurt.

    • Highwater Trousers says:

      Well, the thing is that the car accident seems to have been a fake. Right now, they believe Woods purposely crashed his car due to some controversies. I think that it’s not so much as poking fun at a car accident, so much as it is poking fun at the whole Tiger Woods situation.

  30. the mexi-CAN gamer says:

    over all i love the comic, simple yet amazing. and i have to say….i would so buy that game haha. another treasure on the treasure chest of comics, great job tim and ray

  31. Gadoink says:

    Because obviously a Wii Wheel is required to play golf.

  32. Haha, nice comic. I don’t feel bad laughing at the issue because he wasn’t seriously hurt and the media just won’t let it go. As Jon Stewart said, it’s “the story of a man, famous for hitting a small ball with a stick, and his low speed, zero casualty, minimal injury car crash in front of his own house”.

    Better yet;

    On a different note, I’d totally get these games more than once every 5 years if they added high speed golf carting. =]

  33. racefreak265 says:

    Who knew when I would see the day when 2P Start would do a golf related comic. As a golfer, it’s also one of the funniest things related to golf I’ve seen.
    Really like the little jokes at the bottom and the Wii Wheel icon.
    Oh, and I never figured out why its a pay and play game, I guess you must be able to purchase something in the game…

  34. doc a doc says:

    Ray actually referencing the real world? I HAVE INCREDULOUSNESS!!! Great comic as usual, I liked how you used golf terms to actually describe the crash.

  35. Slider64 says:

    I sent this to many people who i showed off Tiger Woods Wii to and others who know about Tiger and have no clue what a web comic is and out of all them I can safely say you have 3 new readers, ^_^ great comic Feel the Drama

  36. thirdplayer says:

    Well, I guess I will RISE FROM MY GRAVE. Honestly, I don’t know what to say about this. Does everyone have to rip on Tiger? Sure, he may have done something stupid, but just because he’s famous doesn’t mean he’s not human…

  37. Batty1580 says:

    I can just picture them actually making this.

  38. BigMomma says:

    This is a comic that even a non-gamer can enjoy. Really funny!!

  39. randomperson says:

    wait why is tiger saying YES if he crashed that made it more funny!

  40. Ryman says:

    I’m going to make a summary of all the comments this week in list form:

    1) Real life events aren’t really payed attention to by most of the 2pstart community. It’s kind of that “Arg, this should stick to videogames” kind of thing. I think this kind of comic is refreshing, but I digress.

    2) The text at the bottom is unnecessary, coming from those that don’t really get it. But by those that do, it’s loved.

    3) Jon Stewart is awesome

    4) Them be fightin’ words.

  41. Kvb says:

    Hey, new browse buttons.

    Can’t say I really like the new ones, but that’s probably just because they’re new.

  42. Augh, the dreaded ‘downvote’ over at Joystiq. Maybe as the masses start to wake up across the country that’ll change by day’s end?

  43. The Nav buttons look great, Ray!

  44. Mirby says:

    I found this to be in bad taste and I am hereby boycotting your comic. Farewell.

    In all seriousness though, this was a great gag, and I like how his victory pose so easily transformed into one of pain with the addition of that image. Also, I got sick and tired of watching my brother play Tiger Woods ’07 on his PS2 so that makes this even funnier.

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